Thats why I believe PTW is a dead end, they don't innovate, the last two years has been...
MAX and SUPERMAX by increasing velocity, and thats it.

I doubt it.

How many rifle variants does Colt produce? Bushmaster? LMT? Rock River?

There's a reason why many companies can exist producing the AR platform only. Systema obviously has for airsoft.

PTW is about as dead of an end as GBBR is.

How many AK's or MP5s or AUGs or G3 variants can I buy in Canada? None, they are all prohibited. But I can buy an AR, so it follows that my gear is set up for an AR and my airsoft gun would be an AR.

If one wants an MP5, AK, etc., you go buy that, but don't whine because Systema doesn't make one. They don't need to. There was no market for their MP5, so they cancelled it. They sell AR variants like crazy.

Funny.

My main point is that they haven't make any major improvement since two years ago aside from listening to 1 out of 1000 tackleberry's demand for a fix and making higher fps cylinder.

As for firearms, look into firearms produced past 2000, you can own
Robarm XCR, Bushmaster ACR, CZ858, G36 (yes G36, not Stinky Long 8 aka SL8) Tavor etc

The Mp5 lost imho beacuse it did not feature the bolt rack to reset the stop firing mechanism.

Ya, the PTW is a terribly overpriced gun and anyone can make a PTW killer by adding a higher spring, a tightbore, and lipo to any cansoft gun. I think people should steer clear of them.

If more people were interested in them the price would drop significantly, I'm not kidding, right now it's all being hand-made and you literally have to line up to get one unless you're fortunate for somebody to forfeit their order.

As for Canada, I would say 1300-1600 depending on the model. If you want Justin to build you a custom gun it'll cost more.

For example, instead of having the DG M4 built from the Dboys/BOYI body you have it done from a G&P it would be the cost of the gun in Asia plus the internals but you'd have a unique gun.

If you have time and are willing to invest it will pay off if you go the Classic Airsoft route.

I know the market jacks up the value of SystemA PTWs if it weren't for that I'd recommend it for sure. Hopefully they'll fix the moisture issue down the road and possibly even add a blowback system XD.

rar

Yes, just like I can drop a Ferrari engine in a Dodge Neon and make a car that's just as good.....right.

I'd like to know your secret...:rolleyes:

An AR is an AR is an AR...beyond the cosmetic distictions, it's what propells your BB's the furthest, fastest, most reliably - ultimately this is what counts.

Great post KullWarrior - I like your KPI's and categorizations.

You forgot the sarcasm smiley.

I get to hear this same BS comment almost every game so I have embraced the words! I never understand these posts....how can someone comment on what something is worth?? For me a gun that works when I open the case and plug the battery in is worth whatever I have to pay, period.

If someone has been lucky and has experienced other platforms with trouble free playing then that works for them. All I know is I know a lot of guys that say their gun only cost xxx amount but I also always see them replacing parts.

Hahaha. Nice;). This coming from the guy with the most dialed in one I know:salute:


I've had mine for two years. I play a lot (At least twice a month on avg.), the only thing I've had done is the motor and hop up worked on, I've had a reliable gun game after game. It's worth the money and you don't have to be a rich Albertan to own one.

The chicken and egg question is "is it worth all the worth it threads"?

ive had mine for 4 years now i believe use it every weekend at our local games and its gone down on me twice, first time was the motor needed the tackleberry/ macguyver treatment, second time was due to a shitty airsoft surgeon board that failed. reinstalled my origional board and no problem. thats a pretty damn good record. i know an aeg cant say that as pistons gears and trigger blocks all strip blow or fry

So, to put it simply, a PTW is a great noob gun, since you don't have to do anything to it to keep it running.

Not my cup of tea. And I prefer trademarks/tinkering with my gun.

A GBBR is more realistic than a PTW in my mind.

there is no need to bitching around for the ptw, its all depends on how you play the game.If you have the need for a PTW, you can afford and willing to pay for it, then it worth every penny.every gun has pros & cons, It's all about personal preference, others has no right to judge its worthy or not but yourself.