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KillerCreed March 14th, 2008 00:01

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Originally Posted by Amos (Post 668919)
Why upgrade it past XT limits? I don't think I've seen you at a single outdoor game... ever..

That is due to my being out of comission M4 until i get new parts, ak47 is available, scar has too low fps to use outdoor until increased. Also work, school, and family commitments are getting in the way of me playin outdoors

Zekk05 May 6th, 2008 13:27

FYI, the FPS in a vfc scar is not too low for outdoor use. Ive used it twice outdoors and I get perfectly good range off of 310fps .25 KSC perfects. Thats with a 6 03 prometheus inner barrel mind you.

I told you before, you dont need a high FPS to play outdoors. Its just a bandaid solution for a lack of skill.

Caped_crusadar May 6th, 2008 21:00

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Originally Posted by Zekk05 (Post 711563)
FYI, the FPS in a vfc scar is not too low for outdoor use. Ive used it twice outdoors and I get perfectly good range off of 310fps .25 KSC perfects. Thats with a 6 03 prometheus inner barrel mind you.

I told you before, you dont need a high FPS to play outdoors. Its just a bandaid solution for a lack of skill.

its not just high fps, its range, and in an open field, or an area with few trees, range matters

mines only shooting 350 atm

Blackspeed416 May 7th, 2008 12:48

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Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 624601)
I'm receiving mine this Tuesday as well as an AAC flash hider, 10 KA DE mags and some batteries.

My question is, can we buy a VFC SCAR hopup unit??

I'm thinking of buying another hopup unit, attaching it to the CQC barrel and therefore it would be quite easy to switch in between STD and CQC; I would only need to remove the full inner barrel assembly and replace it with the other instead of messing up with the hopup rubber each and every time.

The Hop on my 416 isn't the greatest. I would get 2 Systema Hops with the soft Guarder bucking instead.

Zekk05 May 7th, 2008 13:17

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Originally Posted by Caped_crusadar (Post 711942)
its not just high fps, its range, and in an open field, or an area with few trees, range matters

mines only shooting 350 atm

FPS != range
FPS = the speed of which the BB gets to its target.

plus he plays on the same fields I do :P

Rifleman90P May 7th, 2008 13:21

I've chronoed my own VFC SCAR-L using XT BBs, and using .20g's I'm getting about 305FPS on average, and using .25g's I'm getting about 280FPS.

Needless to say, I don't use .25's anymore as I can probably throw them further than the AEG is shooting them. ;)

Without a doubt, my VFC SCAR-L lacks range though. I'm not decided yet how I'm going to fix this. Truth be told, I don't know enough about VFCs yet to know what will work inside it without issue.

I found it a bit disconcerting that my old stock TM M4A1 shoots better than my VFC Scar-L for distance so that was certainly a bit of a let down.

Anyhow, I'm definitely looking forward to enhancing my SCAR's ability to shoot at range as it's currently pronounced lack of range is really a detriment to what I otherwise consider to be a pretty decent AEG.

Cheers! :)
Brian

Zekk05 May 7th, 2008 13:53

Brian: dont use XT BBs to gauge quality of the gun. theyre using cheap BBs. and its the reason your FPS is so low. I had the same problem with my C7A2. Whether it was this thread, or another on ASC, Kevorkian mentioned that he chronoed ~+20fps on his VFC SCAR simply by using KSC Perfects instead of the XT brand.

all Ive done with my SCAR was swapped in a 6.03 tighbore (prometheus) which added about 8 (+-2) fps to the gun, and its shooting just fine for outdoor play in Manitoba. Accurate bursts, healthy rate of fire, Im not even sure I want to put a stronger spring in! The only other part I plan to swap is to put a guarder hop up rubber in there.

If you need any help with the SCAR, let me know. Ive disassembled it entirely about 10 times in the past week (maybe more even) so Ive got a good understanding of the rifle as it is.

Danke May 7th, 2008 14:14

I'm very happy with mine outside in BC right now.

The only issue I have is a battery one, the Intellect 8.6x1400 I got along with just does not seem to take a charge. I've tried all the tricks to bring it to life and it just drops dead.

If I trickle it overnight I can get maybe an hour of play out of it. If I trickle it overnight and plug it in a day later it's dead.

This is the replacement I'm thinking. http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...l?prodID=23543

Zekk05 May 7th, 2008 14:47

Last game I taped a large battery to the side and it worked like a charm!

mini batteries just dont have enough juice :(

Cosmonaut 1 May 7th, 2008 15:51

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Originally Posted by Zekk05 (Post 712507)
Brian: dont use XT BBs to gauge quality of the gun. theyre using cheap BBs. and its the reason your FPS is so low.

I completely disagree. That doesn't even make sence. XT uses Airsoft Elite brand BBs. Yes they come in a 25kg bag, but they are the same BBs you get in the AE brand bags. The only difference is that XT brand BBs are better value as you get 1000 more BBs and its cheaper. I have tight bores in 3 of my guns, and all I've ever used is XT brand BBs. Not to mention the MP7 I owned that had a 6.01 and for the whole time I owned it, I didn't have a single jam.

Zekk05 May 7th, 2008 16:04

Ive never had any Jams with AE BB's either. but both with one of my rifles, and another persons, theres been drastic FPS differences going from AE to KSC Perfects.

Caped_crusadar May 7th, 2008 20:00

here i can buy the low grade bbs, 5000 for $10, and in my 6.03 tightbore there haven't been any jams, when i put in my 6.01 i use KSC perfect bbs though


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