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Lakonian June 25th, 2006 12:41

Shooter's Design claims to make their USP Tactical slide out of steel. Does anyone know if there's any truth behind this? I REALLY don't wanna dish out $250 on a Slide that someone could break with their bare hands.

Lakonian June 25th, 2006 12:47

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Anyways I wish they didn't use this crap. I'd happly pay more for better metel parts.
Yeah. I'd definately dish out $700+ for an fmu that is made from TOP quality materials. I'm really tired of this mediocre "not much better than abs slide, but costs $200 more" bull shit.

CDN_Stalker June 25th, 2006 12:54

Most metal slides (from what it appears to me, my G19 slide an example) is made out out of aluminim. Am sure some might be pot metal, but I doubt it due to the nature of the GBB, fair amount of stress placed on the slide during normal useage. Shooters Design, no idea, but steel is heavier and will cycle slower (if at all, case in point duster might not cycle a heavy steel slide).

krazie Sj June 25th, 2006 13:08

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Commonly referred to as "white metal" as well.

Always trying to bring down the white man eh stalker!! :razz:


Quiet cracker.

Jk, I'm white too. :(

Ghillie973 June 25th, 2006 14:44

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Ghillie, just remember that Heli-Coils are your best friend!

You have them in you m24 right? How much do they cost to have them installed?

SKI June 25th, 2006 16:01

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Ghillie, just remember that Heli-Coils are your best friend!

You have them in you m24 right? How much do they cost to have them installed?

You just buy a Heli Coil kit and insert them yourself.

Autumn June 25th, 2006 16:34

Most companies (including Shooters Design) make there metal slides out of milled solid piece 7075 Aluminum. As I understand it, it is a very high quality and light aluminum alloy. Common uses seem to be golf clubs, airplane parts, and well pretty much any thing that needs to be strong and light. Plenty strong enough for a GBB and light enough to cycle properly.

Definitely not "pot metal" though I am sure some companies may, and probably do use much cheaper metals, so buyers should do there research I guess.

Mantelope June 25th, 2006 16:51

I believe KJW is a big user of pot metal in their GBBs. The only steel slide I can think of off the top of my head is Guarder's G26 steel slide and barrel... it's tiny, but it weighs a freakin' ton.

Autumn June 25th, 2006 18:14

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I believe KJW is a big user of pot metal in their GBBs. The only steel slide I can think of off the top of my head is Guarder's G26 steel slide and barrel... it's tiny, but it weighs a freakin' ton.

Well yeah, most GBB that come full metal use pot metal, which is why I avoid KJW. Most after market parts are good though. On a side note I have never seen any after market parts that are steel before, I bet the weight on guarders G26 slide you mentioned is awesome. Although I am surprised it can cycle it okay, I'm pretty sure that is why aluminum is used instead of steal.

Also, what brand of GBB is the Guarder slide for? I am interested in seeing it. May have to get one if it looks nice. :)

Ace12GA June 25th, 2006 20:20

Shooters Design slides are made from CNC milled Aluminum. Thats why they are $250 to $350 usually, as opposed to the cheap $100 ones. Totally worth the money however.

Mantelope June 25th, 2006 20:49

Prime slides are also CNCed Aluminum and I got mine for about $120. The difference I believe is that Shooter's Design slides are better designed, requiring much less modification to fit on the gun.

Rumpel Felt June 25th, 2006 20:50

Another reason I personally avoid TM at all costs is a piece of steel has probably never gone through their factory. Hell, with their logic, the building is probably plastic.

I know CA may not use top not shit but I took an MP5 metal body and tried pretty damn hard to break it with my hands and on a table and it's pretty solid.

Mantelope June 25th, 2006 20:53

Prime slides are also CNCed Aluminum and I got mine for about $120. The difference I believe is that Shooter's Design slides are better designed, requiring much less modification to fit on the gun.

The Guarder steel slide and barrel are for the TM G26. Check it: http://www.intrudershop.com/show_pro...p?idproduct=55

CDN_Stalker June 25th, 2006 21:14

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Ghillie, just remember that Heli-Coils are your best friend!

You have them in you m24 right? How much do they cost to have them installed?

You just buy a Heli Coil kit and insert them yourself.

I borrow the tools and heli-coils form work and install them myself. Yes, am spoiled. LIke I tell people, I've gone through all the mistakes and fixes with the CA M24 so I can pass the GOOD info on to guys like you to save you the hassle.

Ghillie973 June 25th, 2006 21:43

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Ghillie, just remember that Heli-Coils are your best friend!

You have them in you m24 right? How much do they cost to have them installed?

You just buy a Heli Coil kit and insert them yourself.

I borrow the tools and heli-coils form work and install them myself. Yes, am spoiled. LIke I tell people, I've gone through all the mistakes and fixes with the CA M24 so I can pass the GOOD info on to guys like you to save you the hassle.


Is it hard to do? I was never very good in the metal shop in high school. What's the chances of me fucking it up and destroying my receiver? Also does it matter if the original threads are striped or not when you do it. If not, I'll just wait until my threads strip, then give this a try.


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